In this episode of the Anglotopia Podcast, Jonathan Thomas sits down with Spencer Murphy — Assistant Professor in Media and Communications at Coventry University, specialist in film theory and cross-cultural cinema, and founder of the Coventry East Asian Film Society — for a wide-ranging, enthusiastic, and genuinely entertaining conversation about British film. What is a British film, exactly? Is it about the money, the cast, the crew, the story, or the setting? How does class permeate almost every British film ever made, from Ealing comedies to Harry Potter? Why does the British landscape function as a character in its own right? And why do Americans connect so deeply with British cinema when its sensibility — restrained, ironic, self-deprecating — is so different from Hollywood’s? Jonathan and Spencer also trade their top five British films each, debate the new Wuthering Heights adaptation (neither of them liked it), and discuss why British cinema’s literary inheritance is both its greatest strength and, sometimes, its creative limitation.
Links
- Spencer Murphy at Coventry University
- BFI Top 100 British Films
- Dead Man’s Shoes (2004, Shane Meadows)
- The Full Monty (1997)
- The Remains of the Day (1993)
- Rebecca (1940, dir. Alfred Hitchcock)
- Tamara Drewe (2010, dir. Stephen Frears)
- Friends of Anglotopia
Takeaways
- Defining what constitutes a British film is genuinely one of the hardest questions in film studies — it can’t be reduced to funding source, shooting location, cast, or director alone. Both Jonathan and Spencer agree the most satisfying answer involves who is behind the artistic vision, but even that gets complicated fast.
- The “Mary Poppins test” is Spencer’s shorthand for films that feel very British on the surface but aren’t authentically so — the tourist’s vision of Britain, the chocolate-box version that meets an expectation rather than reflecting a reality.
- British film has a deep and complicated two-way relationship with how Britain represents itself to tourists — Hollywood’s vision of Britain shapes what visitors expect, and British places have increasingly adapted to meet those expectations, from Harry Potter shops in York’s Shambles to the way villages brand themselves around filming locations.
- Class is the single most persistent thread running through British cinema across every decade and genre — from Ealing comedies to Downton Abbey to Trainspotting — and Spencer argues it’s almost impossible to think of a major British film that isn’t, consciously or not, about the class system.
- British cinema’s literary inheritance — the endless cycle of Jane Austen, Brontë, and Robin Hood adaptations — is both a commercial lifeline and a creative constraint. Spencer sees it as potentially reducing the space for new voices and contemporary stories, though he acknowledges the money it generates can fund smaller, more singular films.
- The British landscape is not just a setting in British cinema — it functions as a character, carrying regional pride and identity in a way that Hollywood rarely matches. Spencer notes that British location managers and production designers feel a deep obligation to get place right in a way their American counterparts don’t always have.
- Spencer’s explanation for why Americans love British film comes down to one word: self-deprecation. British culture — and British cinema — is not afraid to ridicule itself, to see its own shortcomings, and to raise them with others in a way that doesn’t quite offend. He sees this as the quality Hollywood fundamentally cannot replicate.
- The new Wuthering Heights adaptation was a near-universal disappointment for both Jonathan and Spencer — not for lack of visual quality, but for failing the fundamental question every film must answer: who is this for?
- Spencer’s most unexpected recommendation is Dead Man’s Shoes (2004) by Shane Meadows — a harrowing, masterful, deeply regional Midlands film that he shows students as one of the most authentic and powerful representations of working-class Britain ever put on screen.
- The incoming Harry Potter TV series — set explicitly in the 1990s with a period-appropriate visual aesthetic — is likely to have a bigger impact on British tourism than anything since the original films, and will once again reshape what visitors expect Britain to look and feel like when they arrive.
Soundbites
- “When I grew up, I really loved Hong Kong movies — Bruce Lee. The thing that fascinated me was you had streets with Chinese signs, but then Royal Albert Street, buses that looked like London buses. I remember my dad saying, ‘Oh, it’s part of Britain.’ And I was like, what? That can’t be so.” — Spencer on the connection between British colonialism and his career in film.
- “It’s almost like a snake eating its tail. Britain adapts to meet the expectation that its own exported films have created. You go to the Shambles in York and every other shop sells Harry Potter things and tea — because that’s what people want to see.” — Spencer on cinema’s two-way influence on British culture and tourism.
- “Class in the UK is not purely related to finance. You can be a very, very wealthy working class person. You could be a millionaire and you’ll always be working class. That idea of class being embedded generationally — going back hundreds and hundreds of years — movies articulate that struggle.” — Spencer on why class is the defining thread of British cinema.
- “I’m from the Black Country — a heavily industrial area. I moved into what people would call a very middle class job as a lecturer at university. But my accent, the way I speak, where I’m from — it’s working class and it will never leave me.” — Spencer on living the class story British cinema tells.
- “You could argue British cinema is trying, in the 1940s post-war period, to lay out the parameters of class once more — because the great leveller of class was the Second World War, when it really didn’t matter who your parents were. People were dying at every rank.” — Spencer on class and British cinema’s post-war identity crisis.
- “I always think of it as the King Charles test. He gave that speech in Congress — understated, but deeply critical, undercutting the president in a way where nobody could quite call him out for it. That is quintessentially British. And I think British film does that too.” — Spencer on why Americans love British cinema’s self-deprecating wit.
- “You’re never going to see a British version of Top Gun. It’s just never going to happen. Hollywood can be very congratulatory. British cinema is not afraid to ridicule what it is to be British — and I think that appeals to American audiences enormously.” — Spencer on the fundamental difference between British and American cinema.
- “Wuthering Heights — I watched it and I thought, I don’t even know what it felt like, but it didn’t feel British to me. I wasn’t sure who it was made for. Is this made for 19 year olds? Because I don’t get it.” — Spencer on the Emerald Fennell adaptation.
- “Dead Man’s Shoes is harrowing and awful, but it had a massive impact on me. It touches on class, on the 1980s, on the downtrodden. It’s a film I’ve seen about three times. I show it to students because it’s just masterful.” — Spencer on his most unexpected British film recommendation.
- “When they replayed the Royal Wedding coverage in the pub, you know what came on after it on BBC One? Wallace and Gromit. The perfect chaser of all that Britishness.” — Jonathan on the most quintessentially British television scheduling decision ever made.
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Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction — Jonathan sets up the episode and introduces Spencer Murphy
- 01:50 Spencer’s Journey into Film — VHS tapes, corner video stores, Hong Kong martial arts films, and an accidental PhD
- 04:36 Jonathan Meets His Wife at Film School — A brief Anglotopia origin story
- 05:13 Southeast Asian Cinema and the British Colonial Lens — How post-1997 Hong Kong shaped Spencer’s thinking about national cinema
- 08:52 What Is a British Film? — The question neither host can fully answer, and why that’s the right response
- 12:36 Jonathan’s Working Definition — Setting, cast, and the authenticity test
- 13:37 The Merchant Ivory Problem — When a British story isn’t quite a British film
- 14:32 The Mary Poppins Test — How to spot a tourist’s version of Britain on screen
- 16:17 Harry Potter, Bond & Lawrence of Arabia — Are America’s favourite “British” films actually British?
- 18:46 Cinema’s Two-Way Effect on Britain — How films shape the places they portray
- 20:53 Harry Potter as Britain’s Biggest Cultural Export — And the new TV series that will change tourism again
- 22:29 The Visual Identity of the Harry Potter TV Show — Why setting it in the 1990s is a smart move
- 24:28 British Film Genres — Social realism, heritage drama, comedy, Hammer Horror, and what each adds to the British identity
- 26:50 Class as British Cinema’s Defining Thread — Why it runs through every genre from Ealing to Peaky Blinders
- 31:33 The Full Monty, Billy Elliot & Richard Curtis — Class in 1990s British film
- 33:36 Accents, Class & the Transatlantic Voice — From clipped 1930s RP to Trainspotting’s Scots
- 38:45 British Cinema & Literary Adaptation — Strength or creative constraint?
- 42:49 The New Wuthering Heights — Two film lovers find they agree it didn’t work, and debate why
- 47:36 Landscape as Character — How place functions in British cinema differently from Hollywood
- 52:08 Why Americans Love British Film — Self-deprecation, irony, and the King Charles Congressional speech
- 55:23 The Battle of Britain vs Top Gun — How British and American cinema represent heroism differently
- 55:50 Spencer’s Top Five British Films — Rebecca, Dr. No, The Devil Rides Out, The Full Monty, Dead Man’s Shoes
- 59:14 Jonathan’s Top Five British Films — The Remains of the Day, Master and Commander, About Time, Tamara Drewe, That Hamilton Woman, Hot Fuzz, On Chesil Beach, and Wallace & Gromit
- 1:03:06 Wallace & Gromit After the Royal Wedding — The perfect end to any discussion of British culture
- 1:04:08 Wrap-Up — Spencer must dash, a second episode is promised, and a call to share your own favorite British films
